tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post2045208062102360399..comments2023-12-31T14:09:29.720-08:00Comments on The Pen and Parchment: Passion within ArgumentStar-Dreamerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14298850366884374226noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-74969510477282244742011-05-30T19:54:07.649-07:002011-05-30T19:54:07.649-07:00Jelah:
"It drives me nuts when I hear people...Jelah:<br /><br />"It drives me nuts when I hear people use religion to denounce fantasy as evil and immoral. Some of the most moral and ethical stories I've read have been fantasies. Magic is a tool, neither good nor evil by itself. It's what the wielder does with it. I think it's a great allegory for all real world abilities. Any talent can be used to better the world or harm it."<br /><br />Yes! Exactly. EXACTLY! That is precicely what gets me so fired up. :D And I do believe that a strong point of Christian fantasy is to be written so that it's not just Christians that enjoy it, but written so that anyone can enjoy it no matter their beliefs, and also written so that those who look for the religious ties can (perchance)understand a slightly deeper story behind the words. Perhaps someone might even be inspired by the second meaning. Who knows?<br /><br />(I very seriously hope and pray that that didn't somehow come across as offending to anyone because it most certainly isn't meant to sound like that... I'm not sure how it would come across that way, but with my recent luck in the subject, ya never know...<_<)<br /><br />Then again, one might say the same thing with a lot of different types of Speculative fiction. For example, I'm rereading Terry Brook's "The Elfstones of Shanara" and really enjoying the symbolizm that he uses. His books are most certainly not Christian (or really religious in any way that I can think of) but it's always interesting for me when I read a book and understand certain elements from a writer's point of view rather than just from a reader's standpoint. Ya gotta love it! :DStar-Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298850366884374226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-45723890440157761472011-05-30T18:05:15.379-07:002011-05-30T18:05:15.379-07:00I don't write Christian fantasy (since I'm...I don't write Christian fantasy (since I'm not Christian), but I do recognize it. I enjoyed Lewis's Narnia long before I knew it had anything to do with religious themes. I think I was maybe 13 or so when I made the connection for myself of "Wait. Does this have anything to do with The Bible?" Didn't stop me from enjoying it, even though I have a different faith.<br /><br />It drives me nuts when I hear people use religion to denounce fantasy as evil and immoral. Some of the most moral and ethical stories I've read have been fantasies. Magic is a tool, neither good nor evil by itself. It's what the wielder does with it. I think it's a great allegory for all real world abilities. Any talent can be used to better the world or harm it.<br /><br />I can't comment on how you said what you said, but way to go for standing up for your passion!Jaleh Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04942272578488986874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-22692557032606821832011-05-27T20:31:49.872-07:002011-05-27T20:31:49.872-07:00I completely agree with you. :|
HUZZAH FOR CHRIST...I completely agree with you. :|<br /><br />HUZZAH FOR CHRISTIAN FANTASY! We must hold the banner high! Forward to the bluffs, wot wot! <br /><br />And it's true. We are growing. Four or five years ago, I had no idea what Christian fantasy was. Today? I WRITE it.<br /><br />Great post. Rouses my blood. :)Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013859345463250479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-33174371125964561682011-05-26T11:54:38.929-07:002011-05-26T11:54:38.929-07:00Come to think of it, I scrolled past some of your ...Come to think of it, I scrolled past some of your posts when I was looking for my comments.Galadrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993204559713347090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-86024582472375681192011-05-26T11:43:00.998-07:002011-05-26T11:43:00.998-07:00Galadriel: Actually, I think I might remember that...Galadriel: Actually, I think I might remember that post. It was a difficult discussion for sure, and one that got me into debating-mode. Favorite things are touchy, it's true. :D And while I'm sure it's possible, it's hard to understand how one can love something and contradict it at the same time. It's hard too when someone sees the evidence of truth and refuses to admit to truth. Sort of like Darwinism vs. Creationism. That's an age-old debate as well. :D<br /><br />Ryan: thank you. I often feel like I have no idea if I'm being too open and passionate about a subject and my point is coming acrossed forced or too strong. I don't mean to do that, even when I'm hot-wired... lol! I'm glad this didn't feel that way to you.<br /><br />Thank you for the link. I clicked through and read that post. It really is good. Yep; that's pretty much how I feel. :D Thank you.<br /><br />NicholeStar-Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298850366884374226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-6191490648244589642011-05-26T10:05:41.793-07:002011-05-26T10:05:41.793-07:00Amen! It's amazing how angry you can get when ...Amen! It's amazing how angry you can get when someone touches your favorite things. I was on Facebook once when someone said that the mythos behind Tolkien stands in sharp contrast to the gospel, as well as discrediting Lewis's Space Trilogy and Narnia. (Said person is still a fantasy fan)<br />My reply:<br />>me opens mouth, then shuts it >quickly to avoid shouting, which >would do nothing but annoy the >others in the area anyway.<br />>Then leaves<br />>(Because she knows that if she >stays she'll do something she'll >regret)<br />Now, that was the first time I remember being absolutely furious. While the person's points were clearly made, I couldn't bear to reply. How can someone support a genre and still discredit the modern founders?Galadrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12993204559713347090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-2451164553769849842011-05-26T01:02:37.384-07:002011-05-26T01:02:37.384-07:00Nichole I don't think this is a bad post :-)
...Nichole I don't think this is a bad post :-) <br />I too write and love this genre... sadly it is something that gets some really bad talk and looked down upon. I do agree with "The League of Extraordinary Scribes" kindly and gently is the best way to show others your opinion. Your post here is full of passion and nothing mean :-) <br />You might like this post by the great Becky Miller :-)<br />http://rebeccaluellamiller.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/fantasy-friday-state-of-the-genre/<br /><br />Looking forward to your next post,<br />~RyanR.P.Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17154539984752925485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-43054021187719654262011-05-25T19:30:48.988-07:002011-05-25T19:30:48.988-07:00Oh, I agree with you entirely. Thank you for comm...Oh, I agree with you entirely. Thank you for commenting!!! :D Welcome! It's so good to see people from the League coming over to the P&P.<br /><br />I don't know. I've always been told I was hot headed. *shrug* Perhaps I shouldn't be so outspoken. But you know... it bothers me when people refuse to even admit that I (ahem) I mean my genre is real. You're absolutely write... I mean "right". :D C.S. Lewis and Tolkien are absolutely prime examples in the genre. <br /><br /><br />Oh, I know it bothers other people too. I should probably be sweeter with my words. Actually, I'm planning to write another post on the matter that's not quite so... eh... ranty. But you know, if I can't vent on my blog then where CAN I vent? lol!<br /><br />Who knows. I may even take this post down later. I just needed to rant and to share. Now that I'm not so hot-wired, I feel better and can look at my post with a more critical eye. haha! ;)<br /><br />Thank you so much for commenting! It's so nice to hear from you!!! :DStar-Dreamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14298850366884374226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7970703367799585001.post-79648745073163229162011-05-25T19:11:52.670-07:002011-05-25T19:11:52.670-07:00Yes, there is Christian Fantasy and it's been ...Yes, there is Christian Fantasy and it's been around for a long, long time. Since Lewis and Tolkien for one. But the debate as to whether people should write it or read it was alive and kicking back then too. <br /><br />So, bravo for going in and telling the truth. Just know, as my mom always says, you'll get more flies with honey than with vinegar. <br /><br />What I want with flies, has never been really clear BUT I believe the point is this: a gentle and pleasant outreach will win you more converts the the vitrol I know you've had to endure. I've endured it too. As long as there are Christian story tellers that begin the tale with "Once upon a time" there will be Christian Fantasy. However, fantasy writers of all strips have always been in the minority and Christian fantasy writers are in a smaller subset themselves. <br /><br />Welcome to our little band. ;) We fully intend to work with Christ to turn the world right-side-up again, one story and one heart at a time. <br /><br />~Michelle aka Everlastingscribe from the League of Extraordinary ScribesThe League of Extraordinary Scribeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06724435173375412059noreply@blogger.com